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Could Pot Be Legal in Missouri, Ever?

Colorado and Washington voters said yes to measures to legalize marijuana. Could it ever happen here? Petitions have been circulated in University City and elsewhere in the Show-Me State. Would you support it?

On the heels of ballot initiatives in Colorado and Washington that successfully legalized recreational use of pot by its residents, could it happen here in the Show-Me State?

A petition drive to put it on the Nov. 6 ballot obviously failed, in spite of efforts around the state to get enough signatures. Activitists brought the drive to The U City Loop in February and the Eureka branch of the St. Louis Public Library in March.

Informal polls on Eureka-Wildwood Patch and University City Patch showed overwhelming support for legalization. But, of course, they're self-selecting polls, not scientific.

Most of us probably missed the Nov. 3 conference on the subject of legalizing pot in Missouri, hosted by the Show-Me Cannabis organizers. 

A study by the National Cannabis Coalition in conjunction with Show-Me Cannabis found that legal (and taxable) pot would generate substantial cash for the state budget, according to an article last month in the Riverfront Times.

The $149 million comes from several different places, but mostly from no longer having to police and prosecute pot smokers.

According to Show-Me Cannabis's John Payne, the group commissioned the study while their 2012 legalization campaign was still alive and well. Because of that, Missouri's study came out first, but he says there will be studies for all 50 states at some point.

According to Dr. Miron's figures, Missouri's government would save $90 million annually and generate $59 million from taxing legalized marijuana like cigarettes and booze.

We have to assume that most people don't like the idea of legalizing pot in the state, since the petitition drive did not successfully put it on the Nov. 6 ballot.

But is it just a matter of time? Advocates aren't going away. The efforts are continuing. Why do you oppose it? Or why do you support legalization, if you do?

TLS November 12, 2012 at 02:21 PM
@Chris Michael Hampton...I'm just curious, why are you so against it. Did you have a bad experience with pot or come across a pot smoker and had a bad interaction with that person? This is not at all sarcasm, I sincerely would like to know why you are so against it?
Rebecca K November 12, 2012 at 02:54 PM
@ Christine S M http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201012/is-marijuana-addictive according to the article Pot is less addictive then alcohol and tobacco. I support legalization because marijuana prosecution is a waste of money. It would be better and safer for our population is it was legal and regulated, not least of all because users would have access to commercially made edible pot products which eliminate the users exposure to the ill effects of smoking. And women who wish there were a version of Viagra for females to help with low libido may be especially appreciative of safe, legal marijuana, and their partners too.
D. Walker November 12, 2012 at 09:59 PM
If marijanna is needed for medical purposes then it should be a controlled drug and, filled like any other controlled drug through prescriptions filled pharmacists. Not pot dealers.
susan nation November 13, 2012 at 12:12 AM
KEEP IT OUT OF THE HANDS OF CHILDREN 1-21 YEARS OF AGE Hmmmm...what broke the back of organized crime in the 1980s? Legalized gambling. Meanwhile, politicians tax and generate income out of legalized gambling and create a new set of problems - promising that the legal gambling funds would go to education. Well they go to education, in the form of state grants that support everything but the kids - mostly directed at teachers and unions. For example, in Chicago - gambling revenue offsets the immense employee benefit deficit. Still it is not enough. Legalize marijuana? Same as above - the economic benefits will increase gov't bureacracy spending. However, unlike some of the above comments - substantial studies/research from nations that have engaged in longtitudenal studies - both single and double trials proves that maryjane has a negative effect on growing adolescent brains. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/aug/27/cannabis-damaging-under-18s-study Lung Cancer increases according to the French: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/healthy_kids/Can-Marijuana-Prevent-Cancer.html http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/jun/07/marijuana_discord_french_left But then when politicians want to game more votes and spend more money - its an issue that sends many to the polls to vote for it - like in Colorado and Wisconsin. Who the heck cares about the vulnerable when it comes to voting time.
Tyler j Perry November 13, 2012 at 06:41 PM
First of all I just want to say anyone who classifys marijuana as a drug is stupid. Drugs are man made. Addiction is all mental and if someone can't control there thought's that's on them. Some people need Marijuana for health problems, Other's stress. I personally smoke illeagally because my bone's ache all the time and smoking Marijuana relives all my pain. Relaxes my body so that I may sleep. It's a plant and God made all nature correct? The bible state's that they were smoking opiuts. If he didn't want us to smoke it he wouldn't have put it here. Marijuana is a medicine from earth. Leagalize it and Tax it. Maybe we can get this country outta debt and go after the real drugs, Meth, Crack cocain, Molly, Acid, DMT, 2CP, Harrion, Black tar harrion, and anyother man made drugs. Get off people's ass about a natrual plant and go after the real criminals. I stand my grand. God Bless.
mike k November 14, 2012 at 01:07 AM
In answer to your question, Missouri will never legalize pot, not in a million years.
Rahib November 14, 2012 at 07:53 PM
Why do you write, "then tax and regulate it seven ways to Sunday." If this would be a new commodity, why would it get extra taxation? Isn't that unfair? BTW, one can drink themselves into alcohol poisoning and die - it is completely impossible to overdose on MJ.
Rahib November 14, 2012 at 07:53 PM
Those others are legal due to strong lobbies. That's all. No mystery.
Rahib November 14, 2012 at 07:54 PM
We have 50 states, currently.
Rahib November 14, 2012 at 07:55 PM
. . . . driving slower and more carefully than the rest of us.
Rahib November 14, 2012 at 07:57 PM
You oppose it because it's illegal??? Really? It's not dangerous - not possible to overdose, considered a mild hallucinogen and not addictive. Our jails are full and crowded with violent offenders - pot smokers are non-violent offenders and not a danger to society, unless you have a bag of chips in your hand.
Rahib November 14, 2012 at 07:59 PM
How is it a gateway drug? Wouldn't alcohol be the real gateway drug as more homes have beer and spirits on hand more often than pot laying around? Are you a psychologist?
Rahib November 14, 2012 at 08:00 PM
Or we could look at Amsterdam. Initially they had a spike in usage, but later it fell back to it's normal levels as people who tried it didn't like it for them.
Sharon Miller November 15, 2012 at 03:23 AM
To Caffeinated...We certainly have wasted enough tax payer money to get rid of the illegal stuff..if we legallized the stuff...imagine how fat the state coffers would get..the general fund would actually have to send money to the schools,where it should have gone all the time!!
Dee Magee November 15, 2012 at 06:26 PM
Years ago all you got was a pot ticket if the police caught you. It was about as serious as jay walking. Now they want to cart you off to jail and you spend a fortune on lawyers and court costs. Legalize it. You will create jobs for the farmers and will somewhat regulate the price and quality and the state will get sales tax just like they do for cigarettes and beer. It is a natural substance like tobacco not a manufactured drug. However, Missouri is backwards and super conservative so I doubt that legalization will happen anytime soon. It will be interesting to follow how things go in Colorado and Washington.
Jacqueline Harrison November 16, 2012 at 12:42 AM
I'm going to say this, most of what I am reading above is inaccurate. Gateway drug is any drug, prescription, alcohol, cigs, etc...that doesn't mean we will fall victim to other drugs, that depends on the person. When I was in college I made better grades while smoking MJ and when I stopped, my grades dropped...all that crap about your brain is a myth and no studies have shown bad effects on your heart...look at Willie Nelson AND I'd rather be in a room with a bunch of mellow folks rather than drunk folks OR driving on the road for that matter. Maybe people should Google the reason why it was made illegal in the first place......
Jacqueline Harrison November 16, 2012 at 12:49 AM
R Kohn, YOU ARE SO RIGHT!
Jacqueline Harrison November 16, 2012 at 12:56 AM
Rick Halfacre...you'd be surprised how many function in society every single day and work a full-time job...they're on the roads everyday....
JoseH November 16, 2012 at 03:50 AM
If there are 50 states Mo. will be #52 in any progressive issue.
prianna winkelman November 30, 2012 at 11:58 PM
i respect your opinion. but if you think about it, it will ruin the world severely. i mean, if they legalize the drug then it will cut a hole in the ozone. not just that, but the children and the animals will become effected. AND the pollution rate will sky rocket. the people who smoke will most likely throw it on the ground. this is everyone's home. it shouldn't be treated like that persons bedroom. if the ice melts over and drowns everyone, whose fault will that be?
PaulRevere December 01, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Monica: According to you "pass it, tax it and give the police a break" are justification for legal use of mari. Our state already has the rights to Tax it. It's called "Use tax". (under the Barter economy laws). The police will need more recruits as the Pot-driving accidents and Pot parties will gain much headline news. I would estimate the DUI laws would be used for any MARI smoking individual. AS THEY SHOULD. There would not be less police enforcement.
Candace Jarrett December 20, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Good point Jacqueline. It was once legal before it was realized how highly addictive and profitable tobacco could be. Then came those wonderful people called lobbyist to make it illegal causing farmers to need a new product. In comes tobacco.
Jamie Adams January 10, 2013 at 04:22 PM
You should be issued a citation for illegal use of the ShIfT key.
Brian Feldt (Editor) January 10, 2013 at 04:55 PM
Comments have been deleted for promoting illegal activity.
mike k January 10, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Hell no to legal pot in Missouri, Ok in Illinois because they are a bunch of heathen Democrats.
LA February 03, 2013 at 11:08 PM
What kills me is in today's society there are a lot of drug dealers out there. Some specifically sell just weed. In stl there are many killings for drug deal gone wrong. Or people getting robbed and killed because they are known to have a large amounts in their home. If they make it legal I'm sure they will see a large decrease in the amount of killings because it will put the dealers out of business. I'm sure that dealer won't have better then what will be put on the shelf for purchase. I don't believe the numbers of users will increase massively. Legal or non-legal if one wants to use it they will weather able to be purchased at a store or from a house around the corner. What gets me is acholol is legal which in the event of that how many deaths arises from acholol. Millions and still counting. From car accidents #1 reason, then to acholol poisoning, liver failure, and dong just plain stupid things that resulted in death. If they was to legalize then that will create a lot of jobs, save a lot of people failing drug that due to usage and be able to work, tax will help with the state income, relieve jails of petty arrests. Some tend to forget that weed is a plant with no additives of man made chemicals. But the same people who object the matter are probable the ones who go home from work and have a drink.
Harley March 22, 2013 at 06:20 AM
You know what people that don't smoke POT shut the hell up because your really don't know how pot effect people n it don't make people stupid n I'm living proof I smoked it while going to school n I made all a's n b's. so quit your winning n as far as pot accidents hahaha try another excuse n if u eat the seed it restores ur memory I know that for a fact!n as it being classified as a gate way drug well I got something to say to u on that note shut the hell up u don't know what ur talking about n shove it up ur ass for as us POT HEADS cares
R Jones March 22, 2013 at 01:02 PM
Yeah, quit your "winning". I think you've eaten too many seeds there Harley. Harley here is the prime example why Marijuana will not be legalized in Missouri, because if your lobbyists are half as burnt out as he is they are better off being quiet, or in Harley's case not posting.
PaulRevere March 22, 2013 at 06:50 PM
1) What is the definition of "Recreational". Driving under Drug use subjected to "murder" charges , if you "Pot and "drive. and kill anyone while in an accident. How's that for some Pot use control. Of course, it's your body. I could care less about what you smoke, drink, or eat. After all, Drinking is also a "recreational" substance. Yet, over 50,000 annually "maimed" or Killed with that "recreation product" Now that's some sport that could use a better "helmet".
PaulRevere March 22, 2013 at 06:56 PM
Harley: This is truly a master "riding". A clever way that says it all. I'm going to frame this and post it on my "horsesase".

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